Electric cars
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4wd
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ZEV mandate is stupid.
You don't say.
www.theguardian.com
You don't say.
Vauxhall owner says plants could shut unless UK helps EV makers
Stellantis to rule on viability of Luton and Ellesmere Port sites ‘within year’ amid criticism over lack of government cooperation and sales incentives
www.theguardian.com
deere66
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South Korea: Exploding lithium batteries spark deadly factory fire
At least 22 people have been confirmed dead while eight others were injured, local authorities say.
www.bbc.co.uk
Welcome to the future
FonterraFarmer
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Not a new thought but much like 100-110 years ago , I think long term electric cars are a total farce along with quite a few so called "green" initiatives when you factor in decommissioning, recycling and disposal.ZEV mandate is stupid.
You don't say.
Vauxhall owner says plants could shut unless UK helps EV makers
Stellantis to rule on viability of Luton and Ellesmere Port sites ‘within year’ amid criticism over lack of government cooperation and sales incentives
Alicecow
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‘My electric car has been soul-destroying – I can’t wait to go back to petrol’
Ray Bestwick bought an electric car last May in the hope of hassle-free motoring.
uk.yahoo.com
itsalwaysme
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I'm in no way defending EV's (as I don't think they are the answer) but is the quoted range figures any different than the MPG figures quoted for petrol and diesel, when they rarely match quoted figures, the difference being it's easy to find a "refuel" station on a long journey with petrol or diesel‘My electric car has been soul-destroying – I can’t wait to go back to petrol’
Ray Bestwick bought an electric car last May in the hope of hassle-free motoring.
I was thinking the same about range/mpg figures when I read the article.
Being able to refuel in 5 minutes rather than a couple of hours makes a massive difference.
Matthew
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‘My electric car has been soul-destroying – I can’t wait to go back to petrol’
Ray Bestwick bought an electric car last May in the hope of hassle-free motoring.
Is the range difference between that advertised and reality to do with weight and what else uses the battery?
I was once chauffered in an EV along a dual carriageway. My friend (who is quite a substantial lady) didn't go above 45 mph, was reluctant to use the heater or lights. I wondered why at the time.
But then heard the tale of a farmer who bought an EV, and wanted to take 'mother' shopping in the city.
He is a 'substantial' weight, mother similar, so two large people, not one small driver.
It rained so he put on wipers, and heater and lights.
Oh, and the radio too.
When mother had collected her shopping, that too was stashed and the EV turned for home.
It didn't make it, was collected by the farm landrover and returned to the dealer with many choice words.
Yes. Battery runs everything. Don't run it in the dark. Don't use when it's hot enough to need the air-con. Don't use it when it's cold (cold reduces battery capacity) and the heater will drain it quicker.Is the range difference between that advertised and reality to do with weight and what else uses the battery?
I was once chauffered in an EV along a dual carriageway. My friend (who is quite a substantial lady) didn't go above 45 mph, was reluctant to use the heater or lights. I wondered why at the time.
But then heard the tale of a farmer who bought an EV, and wanted to take 'mother' shopping in the city.
He is a 'substantial' weight, mother similar, so two large people, not one small driver.
It rained so he put on wipers, and heater and lights.
Oh, and the radio too.
When mother had collected her shopping, that too was stashed and the EV turned for home.
It didn't make it, was collected by the farm landrover and returned to the dealer with many choice words.
deere66
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I pulled the postman's leg when last winter asking about not being able to have the heater on and the lights or he might not make round his run
FonterraFarmer
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Range anxiety, but the question has to be asked is why would an engineer not use a combination of critical thinking, industry intuition, common sense and reality before not buying a product that seems flawed in the methodology and is being pushed by a political aganda?
4wd
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4wd
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I'm noticing more electric cars out for 'drive in the country' they seem to be the new Volvo or Audi with drivers barely capable of manoeuvring them - and bizarre tendency to sail past passing places then take forever to reverse a few yards back to it. With so many stops and shunting to correct trajectory of the unruly rear of car that it really might have been quicker for me to reverse with slurry tanker a quarter of a mile.
Just getting in to the side to pause at the wider bit also takes several attempts.
Just getting in to the side to pause at the wider bit also takes several attempts.
Lili
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I was waiting for a grandchild in a car park a couple of years ago on a hot day with the window open.. The car next door was electric, newly purchased, 4 very confused elderly occupants on holiday. They were trying to start the car with no joy. Long discussions about pushing/pulling various buttons and switches, disconnecting seatbelts, changing seats, opening doors all resulting in lots of pings & beeping but no result in ignition. I had to leave after 10 minutes but I hope they got home. Very rural Wales is not the place to breakdown with an electric car.
deere66
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That's not an exclusive electric car phenomenon. Had a woman in a Freelander come straight for me on a single width bridge today. She had the Give Way sign. Faced with 6t of tractor she started laughing and tried to reverse, as she got back far enough for me to get through she suddenly swung L/H down throwing the front across almost onto the front wheel
Glad I have dashcam
FonterraFarmer
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Do people actually buy electic cars for functionality or is it more of a statement or projection of image?
As for anyone over the age of 35 with an electric car car , the best thing they could have done in an environmental sense is kept their previous car car and run it for its full service life of 800,000 to 1,000,000 km.
This "attitude" that vehicles are a single use disposable item as per the last 40 years has to go.
As for anyone over the age of 35 with an electric car car , the best thing they could have done in an environmental sense is kept their previous car car and run it for its full service life of 800,000 to 1,000,000 km.
This "attitude" that vehicles are a single use disposable item as per the last 40 years has to go.
deere66
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Waymo driverless cars wake residents with nighttime honking
The robotaxis were stationed in a San Francisco parking lot when a feature to avoid crashes set off the noise.
www.bbc.co.uk
What is the world coming to?
Slackjawedyokel
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I don’t think that ‘people’ buy electric vehicles at all. Most of the EVs here will be company cars- a perk of the job and the company will be getting big discounts AND tax sweeteners in with the deal. If you don’t have to stump up for an EV, and you’re only going to have it for~3 years from new, then they make a great deal of sense as running a car on electric is massively cheaper than buying price-inflated petrol or diesel.
People wanting to part with their own cash for a car tend to want the massively cheaper version with an engine in it (or at least a PHEV). Things are all going to come to a head on that front though: