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Claas jaguar 60 trailed forager, I never owned one, but I did operate one for a few seasons, why were they so popular? they had so many fundamental design faults.
popular machines that were actually crap.
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Sawdust
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I worked a 60e for years and thought they were fine, at least that 1 was, straight 6 Ford engine, with a flame
out the exhaust as it got dark 
Bovrill
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Never had a Henry?
Choochter
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is that a trick question?
Bovrill
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I've never gone wrong with one of them. House, workshop, grain store, cleaning out the drill, it copes with anything.
opininionated
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I worked a 60e for years and thought they were fine, at least that 1 was, straight 6 Ford engine, with a flame
Now then, the engine might well have helped solve two of the main faults, the weight of the engine on the drawbar might have reduced the load transfer of the trailer that on a PTO driven machine used to take the weight off the tractors rear wheels, and also not being PTO driven would mean that turning left would become an option again.
itsalwaysme
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Dad worked for Bruera Agricultural services in the late seventies delivering machinery I was still at school and would go with him when ever I could, they sold loads of jag 60's and 40's and had a yard full of old/part ex ones as well, I seem to remember they (Bruera) made some sort of bogey for the trailer hitch to transfer weight
@fingermouse might know more
Dad worked for Bruera Agricultural services in the late seventies delivering machinery I was still at school and would go with him when ever I could, they sold loads of jag 60's and 40's and had a yard full of old/part ex ones as well, I seem to remember they (Bruera) made some sort of bogey for the trailer hitch to transfer weight
they did make a bogey, that was badly designed as well, if you turned sharply on the corners the wheel on the bogey would jack knife on the trailer drawbar and then the tractor would exert a force on the chopper drawbar and bend it.
bruera and sharrocks did sell hundreds of them locally, must have had top claas sales men.
Sawdust
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Nobody really trailed trailers in this area, majority was all side load
To the left I may add
itsalwaysme
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Maybe there wasn't much other choice at the time, they also sold loads of Deutz tractors, every local farm seemed to have one
fingermouse
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Before the rise of the flywheel chopper wasn’t really all that much choice Class or John Deere being by far the most popular for us Cheshire boys
Ag mac where class agents alongside their nasher agency when I was a lad and Mike Richmond was ploughing a very small furrow selling universals and another minor brand John Deere
Can’t remember if Bruera also sold class alongside their deutz agency at the same time I’m thinking they did
When Richmond’s finished and ag mac got the by now more popular Deere agency they lost class and Bruera became the undisputed class dealer in the region
Think a lot of success back then was they all used salesmen that had lived the job and could relate to the farmers needs and peculiar ways and most could sell sand to the Arabs
One Deutz ,s salesman’s particular pitch was
Well you won’t need a pond and a watering can to keep the owd thing from boiling
Must have worked He sold bloody loads of them
Them bogeys they built where sold on the idea the balance between your 2wd primemover and trailer was balanced
In reality they where pigs on banks and tight corners
Most ended up being acid barrel carriers
Ag mac where class agents alongside their nasher agency when I was a lad and Mike Richmond was ploughing a very small furrow selling universals and another minor brand John Deere
Can’t remember if Bruera also sold class alongside their deutz agency at the same time I’m thinking they did
When Richmond’s finished and ag mac got the by now more popular Deere agency they lost class and Bruera became the undisputed class dealer in the region
Think a lot of success back then was they all used salesmen that had lived the job and could relate to the farmers needs and peculiar ways and most could sell sand to the Arabs
One Deutz ,s salesman’s particular pitch was
Well you won’t need a pond and a watering can to keep the owd thing from boiling
Must have worked He sold bloody loads of them
Them bogeys they built where sold on the idea the balance between your 2wd primemover and trailer was balanced
In reality they where pigs on banks and tight corners
Most ended up being acid barrel carriers
Multi-power
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What about tarrup or if? They would have been popular where I grew upBefore the rise of the flywheel chopper wasn’t really all that much choice Class or John Deere being by far the most popular for us Cheshire boys
Ag mac where class agents alongside their nasher agency when I was a lad and Mike Richmond was ploughing a very small furrow selling universals and another minor brand John Deere
Can’t remember if Bruera also sold class alongside their deutz agency at the same time I’m thinking they did
When Richmond’s finished and ag mac got the by now more popular Deere agency they lost class and Bruera became the undisputed class dealer in the region
Think a lot of success back then was they all used salesmen that had lived the job and could relate to the farmers needs and peculiar ways and most could sell sand to the Arabs
One Deutz ,s salesman’s particular pitch was
Well you won’t need a pond and a watering can to keep the owd thing from boiling
Must have worked He sold bloody loads of them
Them bogeys they built where sold on the idea the balance between your 2wd primemover and trailer was balanced
In reality they where pigs on banks and tight corners
Most ended up being acid barrel carriers
itsalwaysme
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I think the brands were popular depending on what the local dealer was selling, with ag stuff reliable back up is always important, people didn't travel as far to make purchases and there was no internet to even find the other makes or dealers.
fingermouse
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Was a few tarrups about Burgess,s being agents probably put many off
Saying that mowers where very popular
Not a lot of jf,s round us , the universal dealer I mentioned had the agency and Dad did actually buy one of him when I had a steep learning curve with the jag 40 we had at the time ( I have never ignored that little thud going through a mower again )
New Holland were not overly popular either despite the 2 main ford dealers in area selling huge amounts of tractors
Multi-power
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New Holland were the undisputed king of the double chop when I was a lad, but no NH presision chops at all, being a lot of small farms I would imagine the side mounted tarrup, 602b I think was probably an ideal size
Multi-power
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I have just thought of an absolute classic, DB 1390 was once, albeit briefly the best selling tractor in the UK !
