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4wd said:
It doesn't look like an unsafe overtake especially if they were both only doing 20mph.
If the cars had been more to the left there would have been ample space to get by without crossing the line its quite wide road.
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Solid white lines on both sides, so severe offence
 
7614 said:
A470 is the main north /south road some of those parts around Dolgellau are as good as it gets, it wouldn't be 20mph territory though. Some long straight stretches on which a powerful bike that could really open out, perhaps safely??

Just Google motorcyclist killed on A470 to see how many come up.
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The problem is like a road like that in a car if it goes wrong you have options but on a bike if it goes wrong (like loose gravel, mud oil, debris the odd variable radius corner) it really goes wrong...
And remember falling of a motorbike doesn't normally cause injury or major injury but what you hit as a result of a fall could be fatal.
 
Sawdust said:
Solid white lines on both sides, so severe offence
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I'm aware of this but they don't mean 'no overtaking' if the cars had kept a bit more to nearside it would have been reasonable to go past without crossing the lines.
Also you are allowed to go over them to pass a very slow or stationary vehicle e.g. Tractor cutting hedge or road sweeper.
My view from having bikes since 1980 is that a competent rider could pass two dawdling cars in about 3 seconds with little or no risk.
Sometimes double lines go on interminably rather than stop start as it is considered too difficult for drivers to recognise a brief overtaking place.
 
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Looking at the picture, the road is rising there so approaching the crest of a hill, also looks like the road deviates to the right from this side. As it's an A road I'm assuming that the speed limit it 60mph. Given how close the red car is to the vanishing point ahead and how far back the motorbike is from the car and how far to the right he is in the lane he's in, I don't think the bike could get back onto his own side of the road before the crest of the hill. Add to that the possibility of a car, van or lorry coming the other way perfectly legally at 60 mph and with no verge or hard shoulder available to allow for evasive action on their part, I think the biker was lucky to just get the punishment that he did. Better than going home in a box. He was aware of the road safety campaign going on at the time but still chose to drive/ride like he did.
We won't even mention the illegal numberplate.
 
4wd said:
I'm aware of this but they don't mean 'no overtaking' if the cars had kept a bit more to nearside it would have been reasonable to go past without crossing the lines.
Also you are allowed to go over them to pass a very slow or stationary vehicle e.g. Tractor cutting hedge or road sweeper.
My view from having bikes since 1980 is that a competent rider could pass two dawdling cars in about 3 seconds with little or no risk.
Sometimes double lines go on interminably rather than stop start as it is considered too difficult for drivers to recognise a brief overtaking place.
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We will agree to disagree

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Alicecow said:
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Looking at the picture, the road is rising there so approaching the crest of a hill, also looks like the road deviates to the right from this side. As it's an A road I'm assuming that the speed limit it 60mph. Given how close the red car is to the vanishing point ahead and how far back the motorbike is from the car and how far to the right he is in the lane he's in, I don't think the bike could get back onto his own side of the road before the crest of the hill. Add to that the possibility of a car, van or lorry coming the other way perfectly legally at 60 mph and with no verge or hard shoulder available to allow for evasive action on their part, I think the biker was lucky to just get the punishment that he did. Better than going home in a box. He was aware of the road safety campaign going on at the time but still chose to drive/ride like he did.
We won't even mention the illegal numberplate.
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To me that's a good single lane dual carriageway, slight bend cresting to the right, possibly good for a car doing 120kph in either direction,
Now how long will it take and what distance will it take for a bike to pass safely and or what will be the result of when passing with a motorcyclist coming from the opposite direction at the velocity???
The logic that the motorcyclist is exempt from observing the road limit criterion is no different to a performance car driven at a speed slower than the car is capable yet well in excess of the stated limit.
That said the bloke on the bike looks like a "weekend warrior", so that's probably the motorcyclist at highest risk of fatality.
 
Alicecow said:
www.independent.ie

‘Red light’ cameras on way to catch and fine motorists who break traffic lights, Eamon Ryan says

Motorists who ignore traffic lights will be caught and automatically fined when new ‘red light cameras’ are introduced later this year.
www.independent.ie www.independent.ie

I hope they catch and fine the cyclists too.
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Along with new cameras, he said there would have to be a focus on increasing enforcement through having more Gardai on the street and on the beat.

He said preparations to reduce the default speed limits on national and non-national roads were being fast-tracked but the need to change every road sign on every road took time.

Under the changes, roads where a 100kmph limit applies will reduce to 80kmph, and 80kmph roads will change to 60kmph.

In urban areas, the 50kmph default limit will reduce to 30kmph except where local authorities deem it unnecessary.



And this is utterly ridiculous. Not only will it not reduce road deaths, it will increase them.
 
Alicecow said:
www.independent.ie

‘Red light’ cameras on way to catch and fine motorists who break traffic lights, Eamon Ryan says

Motorists who ignore traffic lights will be caught and automatically fined when new ‘red light cameras’ are introduced later this year.
www.independent.ie www.independent.ie

I hope they catch and fine the cyclists too.
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To be fair there would be some high speed mobility scooters in the same category, seen a few here that I'm sure can exceed 30kph and they do that on the footpath.
 
And my most notable traffic observation in Ireland was the fact 75-80% of people not stopping at stop signs, admittedly an increasing problem here too.
 
A case can be made for doing away with them altogether and enforce driving appropriately to conditions.
If you go far at night 30 zones are often deserted but camera would still nab you.
At other times of day people see 30 limit and try to hit it even when it is too high.
 
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